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Building Stronger Bonds: Matt Haviland and his Daughter Olivia’s Father-Daughter Journey

September 21, 2026 by dadofdivas

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At the heart of The Dad and Daughter Connection, featured in this week’s episode, is the steadfast belief that the strongest father-daughter relationships are built one intentional moment at a time. In a conversation brimming with honesty and warmth, Dr. Christopher Lewis sits down with Matt Haviland and his 20-year-old daughter, Olivia Haviland, to explore what it truly means to connect, support, and empower our daughters to become confident, independent women.

Listening With Intent

One of the most powerful themes from this episode is the importance of truly listening. Olivia Haviland reflects on her high school years, sharing how her dad’s willingness to listen without judgment made her feel seen and valued. Rather than resorting to harsh discipline, Matt Haviland chose to open a dialogue, striving to understand Olivia’s perspective and guide rather than simply correct. This practice, inspired by a national survey in which teens wished their dads would “listen more,” is a reminder for all fathers: be present, and let your daughter’s voice be heard.

Meaningful Moments Big and Small

Connection isn’t always about the grand gestures. Matt Haviland and Olivia share memories ranging from epic squirt gun battles to heartfelt college essays, and even “loud and obnoxious” declarations of love at McDonald’s. Whether it’s a shared joke, a drive together, or simply showing up at a dance recital, these moments accumulate into a reservoir of trust and comfort. As Olivia Haviland puts it, time spent together outweighs any material gift.

Guidance and Independence

Balancing guidance with independence is a recurring theme. Matt Haviland, a former single dad, emphasizes being intentional with the time he shared with Olivia, supporting her dreams while encouraging self-reflection and growth. For Olivia, this support translated into confidence in her career and life decisions—bolstered by her dad’s encouragement to think long-term and his faith-based guidance.

Real Advice for Real Dads

This episode wraps with practical wisdom: prioritize time with your kids, apologize for your mistakes, and let your actions reflect your family values. Both Matt Haviland and Olivia Haviland urge dads everywhere to listen deeply and value presence over presents.

Ready to strengthen your bond with your daughter? Listen to this heartfelt episode of The Dad and Daughter Connection and discover how every day can be an opportunity to connect, grow, and become the dad she needs.

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TRANSCRIPT

Dr. Christopher Lewis [00:00:02]:
Welcome to The Dad and Daughter Connection, the podcast for dads who want to build stronger bonds and raise confident, independent daughters.

Dr. Christopher Lewis [00:00:12]:
If you’re looking to build a stronger bond with your daughter and help her grow into a confident, independent woman, you’re in the right place. I’m Dr. Christopher Lewis, and The Dad and Daughter Connection is the podcast where we dive into real stories, expert advice, and practical tips to help you navigate the incredible journey of fatherhood. In every episode, we’ll bring you conversations that inspire, challenge, and equip you to show up as the dad your daughter needs. So let’s get started, because being a great dad isn’t just about being there. It’s about truly connecting. Welcome back to the Dad and Daughter Connection, where every week we have a great opportunity to be able to work together to build those connections that we want to have with our daughters one day at a time. You know, I love it that you come back every week because that shows a lot about who you want to be as a father, but also who you want to be and what type of relationship you want to have, relationship that you want to have with your daughter.

Dr. Christopher Lewis [00:01:16]:
And it takes time, it takes effort, and it takes work. And we have to keep showing up. And it is so important for us to be able to put the work in for ourselves, but also put in the work with our daughters to be able to have that solid relationship that we wanna have. And that’s why this podcast exists. Every week, I love being able to bring you different people with different experiences that allow for you to be able to learn, to grow, to get some tools for your toolbox, and to be able to take those and use them for the future. So I am really excited today to have a, I’m gonna say a return guest. It’s not really a return guest on this show, but Matt Haviland, is with us. And Matt and his daughter are with us today, his daughter Olivia.

Dr. Christopher Lewis [00:02:02]:
And Matt is a past guest of a past podcast that I did called Dads with Daughters about 4 years ago. And I’m really excited to be able to have Matt on, but also this time his daughter Olivia, to be able to talk about the relationship that they’ve been able to build together and also what they’ve learned along the way to share that with you. Matt, Olivia, thanks so much for being here today.

Matt Haviland [00:02:26]:
Yeah, Chris, thanks again for having me back. And this is a really It’s a really special moment to have Olivia with me today. So say hi.

Olivia Haviland [00:02:33]:
Hi.

Dr. Christopher Lewis [00:02:33]:
I’m really excited to have you both here. And I want to go back a little bit because I know, Olivia, you’re 20. You know, you’re an adult now. You’re doing the life thing. You’re doing the work thing. You’re out there. And as you think back to the relationship that you’ve been able to build with your dad, what’s one thing that your dad did for you that helped you and made you feel truly seen, heard, and valued as a daughter?

Olivia Haviland [00:03:02]:
Um, I would say in high school, I was struggling a lot with my mental health. And then I was getting myself into a little bit of trouble. And he didn’t ground me. Well, there was like boundaries where he grounded me a little bit, but he was more open to like listening as of like why I did the things that I did, instead of just like not hearing me out and just screaming at me, taking my phone, not letting me hang out with my friends and everything. So that meant a lot to me.

Dr. Christopher Lewis [00:03:32]:
And Matt, I guess, take me back to that point for you, because I know you had your own journey as a youth and went through your own stuff. And we talked about, we talked about a lot of that in the first interview that we did. So talk to me about that for you and hearing that from Olivia and how you had to be able to kind of take what you learned to be able to help her?

Matt Haviland [00:03:57]:
Yeah, I was very grateful for a lot of the experiences that I had, not only personally but also professionally or through mentorship as well. I guess where I can go with that, Chris, is Olivia was born when I was 30 years old, so I wasn’t super young. So by the time she’s in high school, you know, I’m in my mid-40s. I would like to say I’ve learned a few things over those 14 or 15 years of parenting her, but I also Just like a lot of people, either parents or— I, I work with fathers also in a professional setting. You know, we learn a lot from our own previous experiences. So the things my own parents did or did not do, so learning how to correct that and apply that as much as possible. Plus working in a fatherhood field for so long, I’ve obviously picked up tips, either again things that I’ve taught guys or other men have taught me as well. But it really becomes a lot different instead of me just telling a dad what to do when I actually have to live this out.

Matt Haviland [00:04:54]:
But I think I could attribute a lot of it to— I was at a conference many years ago, probably 2010, 2012, and they revealed a survey result, a national survey, and they said all these teen kids wish their dad would fill in the blank. And the number one answer was listen more. And that was something that, just like Olivia just said, instead of flying off the handle, telling her how much trouble she’s in, let me hear her out first.

Olivia Haviland [00:05:18]:
Yeah.

Matt Haviland [00:05:19]:
And then we can go from there.

Dr. Christopher Lewis [00:05:20]:
Now I know that a lot of times, Matt, we as fathers are trying to build those moments, those meaningful moments that connect us with our kids. And what is one of the most meaningful moments that you’ve been able to share with Olivia and what made it so special?

Matt Haviland [00:05:35]:
Okay, she said the water fight, so clearly that must have been one. It was April Fool’s Day, probably about 4 or 5 years ago. She pranked me in the house and that turned out to a full-blown squirt gun war in the house, actually Super Soakers in the house.

Olivia Haviland [00:05:49]:
Well, I pranked him once and then he forgot to take the tape off the faucet and pranked himself again.

Matt Haviland [00:05:55]:
Yeah, she did the old, you know, she tied the rubber band around the sprayer on the kitchen sink. So when I turned on the kitchen sink faucet, it hit me, and then I shut it off and hit myself again. And yes, that is a very— we’re gonna remember that forever, having a squirt gun fight in the house. Not recommended. My wife had something to say about it when she got home, but it was very meaningful. Another really meaningful moment on a more emotional level was a couple years ago, Olivia wrote a paper for college, and they were to choose somebody that’s inspired them inspired them, and she wrote the paper about me. And it starts out with the words, I am who I am today because of my dad. And I don’t think, Christopher, I don’t think there’s any greater words that a parent can hear than something like that.

Matt Haviland [00:06:34]:
And she went on to say a lot of like what she just said about me being there and communicating with her mom and just so many other things. So that was a special moment. The fact that of all the times I’ve screwed up as a dad over, at that point, over 18 years, and then just to receive the gift like that that says, no, Dad, you did a lot of screwing up, but you did it right as well. And Really, that meant so much. To this day, there’s no greater gift I’ve ever been given than that paper.

Dr. Christopher Lewis [00:06:59]:
And Olivia, what are some things that you wish your dad had done differently when it came to building your relationship?

Olivia Haviland [00:07:05]:
I don’t know. I can’t really think of much because from our situation of like me growing up, it was really hard to make time to see me and everything, but he was doing all that he could. From what I noticed, I would just say maybe less of the dad jokes for sure. On a serious note, I can only flash back to when I was little and I wish he learned to cook more things rather than turkey burger and rice and sometimes mac and cheese.

Dr. Christopher Lewis [00:07:34]:
That’s fair.

Matt Haviland [00:07:35]:
I was a bachelor for 29 years. Okay, so but just for your audience though, to just kind of backtrack our story, I was a single dad, Olivia’s mom and I never married. So I was a single father for the first 9 years of her life too. So just trying to navigate what that was like raising a child in 2 different homes.

Olivia Haviland [00:07:52]:
Because rules would would be different at my mom’s and then rules would be different here. I would say like not anything that he could do different, but like something I take back is like when we would get in arguments, I would like not talk to him for the rest of the night. But like, he— I’m thankful that you respected my space, but I kind of wish you would have like pushed me a little bit to like talk more. But other than that, I can’t really think of anything.

Dr. Christopher Lewis [00:08:16]:
Now, Matt, all of us are trying to help our daughters to be able to become the people that they’re becoming. Talk to me about how you you balanced guiding Olivia while also giving her the independence to grow into the person that she has become?

Matt Haviland [00:08:31]:
Yeah, speaking from personal experience, so being a single father— and I’ve often defined single dads especially as it could be a man who has full custody, maybe it’s split custody, maybe it’s minimal custody— I would be what was defined as a non-custodial parent, meaning I had less than 50% of the parenting time. Because of that, I was really intentional about the time I had with her. But I think that’s just a good lesson for any parent, is to be intentional intentional. I have the privilege of working with new first-time fathers in some of the work that I do, and I’ll talk to them about making time for their kids. You know, there’s a great quote that says, you’ll never have the time for your kids, you have to make time. There’s no other way. And really putting that into practice, um, you know, you go to parks— and this isn’t to shame anybody listening, but it’s a good reminder— and you’ll see all the parents looking down at their phones while the kids are playing. And it’s about getting engaged in their life.

Matt Haviland [00:09:24]:
And I think for having Olivia, because I didn’t have her all the time. I did not want to take her time— the time with her for granted. But any— even for parents that are raising their kids together in the same household, I mean, the reminder still goes that there’s no greater gift that we can give our kids than our time. And being present isn’t just being in the same room, it’s being, you know, mentally and emotionally present. And I know there’s probably a lot of people that have heard that before, but I think it’s true. I mean, just to be there, to be involved with raising kids— yes, you’re going to have the serious moments, But then also, it’s just kind of spending time together. Maybe it’s going for a walk, and maybe at first it’s a goofy conversation, or, or it’s, uh, it gets more serious. When I had Olivia, the average drive home to her mom was about 15 or 20 minutes each way.

Matt Haviland [00:10:09]:
So every time I picked her up, I mean, that’s 20 minutes of car time that we can kind of talk a little bit. So I think it was not just anything one specific, but it was just that continual over and over and over for 18 years of trying to be as intentional as I can, listening to her, correcting mistakes when I, I can, and then Everybody will say it, she is a carbon copy of me. She is literally— I mean, she’s cuter than me, but just, I mean, personality-wise, she is a carbon copy.

Olivia Haviland [00:10:36]:
We stand the same.

Matt Haviland [00:10:37]:
Yeah, our mannerisms are all the same. But really understanding that too, that I’m looking in a mirror here. So when I am raising her, disciplining her, engaging with her, how would I react to that as well?

Dr. Christopher Lewis [00:10:49]:
And speaking to that, Olivia, how has your relationship with your dad influenced the way in which you navigate life, relationships, or challenges? challenges today?

Olivia Haviland [00:10:59]:
Um, I would say, I mean, definitely he— I obviously wasn’t alive, but he did struggle when he was a teenager and in his 20s. And I feel like when I got into that point, when I was getting in some trouble my sophomore year of high school and everything, just like for him to know exactly what it was like to do the same things helped him guide me out of it instead of, like I said earlier, yelling at me, screaming at me. He would actually like hear me out and be like, hey, I was in your position once and this is how I got through it. But he would also always bring faith into it and keep me strong in my faith. Like he would always end a conversation with a Bible verse or bring in a passage or a verse just to help me through something.

Dr. Christopher Lewis [00:11:47]:
Now, Matt, we talked about— Olivia’s just talking about some challenging times, and all of us go through those challenging times as we’re raising kids. There’s great times and there’s where you might hit rock bottom as well. And what are some intentional ways that you worked to strengthen your bond with Olivia, especially during those challenging times?

Matt Haviland [00:12:05]:
I’ve always had, since I’ve become a dad, and I am one to really— I’m a huge advocate for everyone to have a mentor. You know, I’ve always had a mentor. I wasn’t raised in a two-parent home. My parents were never married. My dad was minimally engaged in my life. So not having that strong father figure in my life, growing up and understanding what that’s like. But when I did become a dad, I’ve always had strong mentor men in my life in various capacities. Some might be in work, some might be in parenting, or whatever it may be.

Matt Haviland [00:12:38]:
So I think being able to talk it through with a mentor who also was a father, and maybe even perhaps depending on who it was, a grandfather— so a mentor just being somebody that’s a little older and has more experience And hearing that out. And Chris, there was a ton of mistakes along the way. I mean, I’m not going to lie. There was— I’ve had some really bad moments as parents, never in a, like, an abusive way or anything, but where I really dropped the ball. And just understand, I don’t ever want to feel like that again. Apologizing to her, admitting that I screwed up and doing my best not to go through that again. But by the time she was really struggling, especially in the late middle school, early high school years, again, by this point, I’m in my mid-40s. I had been parenting her for a long time.

Matt Haviland [00:13:22]:
So, I knew Olivia. I was able to read her cues. And, I understand that might be a little different in every family dynamic, but I was able to read her cues. And, the girl talks all the time. So, when Olivia’s quiet, there’s obviously there’s something going on. And, like she said, I mean, I was in some— my teen and 20s were some pretty dark years in my life and never wanting her to go through that. I struggled with substance abuse and a lot of other I didn’t go that far. No, but I’m just saying I didn’t want you to go that far.

Matt Haviland [00:13:53]:
So being able to kind of curb that beforehand. But there’s always— I think there also was a special bond. And again, this isn’t to take away from anybody in other family dynamics, but because I was a single father, when I had Olivia, it was me and Olivia. So for 9 years, it was just us. We were like a team, you know? And just to be able to read— and I mean, she’s my heart, and I wanted to in so many ways, give her what I was never given from an upbringing even though it wasn’t perfect because she was still being raised in 2 different homes. But nonetheless, giving her the holidays or the Christmases or the love—

Olivia Haviland [00:14:28]:
Dance recitals and games.

Matt Haviland [00:14:29]:
Yeah, attending. My dad made 2 of my baseball games over 12 years. And, I was at almost every game I could make for her or her dance recitals and understanding how important that is for her to look out in the crowd And to see me there.

Dr. Christopher Lewis [00:14:41]:
You know, Olivia, earlier I asked your dad about how he worked to be able to provide you with that independence that you needed. Talk to me on your side of how your dad encouraged you to be confident and independent in your life.

Olivia Haviland [00:14:56]:
I would say he’s always been my biggest cheerleader, even if it’s loud and obnoxious at my games. Or there was one time he was saying how much he loved me in the middle of McDonald’s, just screaming it.

Matt Haviland [00:15:09]:
On purpose.

Dr. Christopher Lewis [00:15:10]:
On purpose.

Matt Haviland [00:15:11]:
To embarrass her on purpose.

Olivia Haviland [00:15:12]:
But I would say, like, he’s always been like, he’ll send me a, hey, good morning, I hope you have an amazing day. It’s not every day, but I think that’s what makes it more special is that it’ll be like out of the blue or it’ll be like a Bible verse or like I’ll tell him, I’m like, hey, I had a really bad day today. And then he’ll send me a Bible verse or be like, hey, I have time to call. I would say that’s really encouraging. And then also just like, you know, I’ll be at work and then he’ll show up and bring Dunkin’ or Subway, just like showing that even like if he can see me for 5 minutes, like it still matters. So that means a lot to me too.

Dr. Christopher Lewis [00:15:51]:
And Matt, we talked before we started today about what Olivia is doing and she’s working in healthcare right now. And I guess as you have been fathering Olivia, how do you support Olivia in pursuing her passions and her dreams?

Matt Haviland [00:16:04]:
Great question. I, first of all, I’m very impressed because Olivia has a career focus already at 20. And I know that’s not rare, but I, at 20, I mean, I was completely in the opposite direction. So I’m already just so proud of her because, I mean, she is very motivated, she’s very determined, she has an excellent work ethic. I mean, she works hard and she really respects the job that she has, even if she doesn’t like it a lot. So, so to encourage her again— Yeah, she likes her job right now, so that’s good. But to encourage her, I would say again, just listening, kind of maybe as she’s talking, processing, like, okay, what’s this going to look like in your life? Is this going to require more schooling? Sometimes I ask her questions like, how do you see this playing out long-term? If you want to get advanced in your career, what’s that going to look like? How’s that going to affect the other areas of your life? And kind of just helping her think through. You know, she doesn’t have all the weight that, you know, we as adults have right now, you know, carrying a lot of mortgages or payments or, you know, other bigger obligations.

Matt Haviland [00:17:09]:
Not to minimize what she’s doing, but—

Olivia Haviland [00:17:10]:
Right.

Matt Haviland [00:17:11]:
But she has some opportunity and some room right now to really dream, like, hey, what do I want to do for a career? And if I do change my career, that’s okay. But she has tremendous skills. I think that’s one thing, is to let her know what skills she has. She’s definitely a people person. She has a hard work ethic. She’s a great communicator. So just kind of saying, hey, these are the things you’re really good at. So where would that fit for you in your career field?

Dr. Christopher Lewis [00:17:35]:
And Olivia, if you could spend an entire day with your dad doing anything, what would it look like?

Olivia Haviland [00:17:39]:
Oh, no. No signs, no dad jokes. That would be—

Matt Haviland [00:17:44]:
You gotta explain the signs.

Olivia Haviland [00:17:46]:
He is obsessed. I will be trying, like, you know, we go to a zoo, I want to see the animals, and he’s like, oh, I want to know where the animals lived, um, where they came from, how old are they, how many, like, claws do they have, how many teeth. Like, it doesn’t matter. Like, I just— I want to see the animals. And it kind of just began as, like, a running joke. Every time he sees a sign, he sends it to me. I reply with, I’m not reading that. But I would say a perfect day, honestly, I love our beach days because he’s very— I mean, we’re like the same person.

Olivia Haviland [00:18:19]:
Like, we don’t want to get out of the water, but we’ve always played stupid games like how many times can we catch the ball in a row throwing trick shots. And then like during COVID we were hitting a ball on our roof with a tennis racket, like, and made that like a whole summer competition. So I would say just like Like little games, like beach day getaway, just the two of us. And then probably Star Wars at the end. Star Wars are an old movie, but something we do like monthly.

Dr. Christopher Lewis [00:18:48]:
Sounds like a good day. Now we always finish our interviews with what I like to call our Dad Connection 6, 6 more questions. And I usually ask them just to dads, but I’m gonna ask both of you some different questions or questions for both of you. Uh, first and foremost, Olivia, what’s one word that describes your relationship with your dad?

Olivia Haviland [00:19:04]:
Comforting.

Dr. Christopher Lewis [00:19:05]:
And Matt, what’s your word?

Matt Haviland [00:19:06]:
I’d say solid.

Dr. Christopher Lewis [00:19:07]:
And Matt, what’s the best piece of dad advice you’ve ever received?

Matt Haviland [00:19:12]:
I think it’s honestly, it’s been in multiple forms and it’s what I’ve already mentioned. It’s just spending time with them. Other things can wait. And I’ve heard a million different quotes in that way, but it all boils down to spending undivided, just they got my attention or she has my attention. Everything else can wait and it’s just our time. So yeah, time.

Dr. Christopher Lewis [00:19:33]:
And Olivia, what’s the best piece of dad advice you’ve ever received?

Olivia Haviland [00:19:37]:
I would honestly say, like, like he said earlier, the, like, talking me through it. Where can you see yourself from this? Let’s, you know, visualize what even is it gonna look like in a month versus 5 years. And I would say that’s gotten me a lot of places because before I make decisions now, I always, like, stop and think, like, hey, like, I may like it right now, but in 3 months, am I gonna like what I’m doing? In a year, am I gonna like what I’m doing? Am I gonna wanna be doing this when I’m older?

Dr. Christopher Lewis [00:20:06]:
Yeah.

Olivia Haviland [00:20:06]:
I’m 60 or 70 years old kind of thing. So I would say that’s gotten me far in a lot of places.

Dr. Christopher Lewis [00:20:12]:
Matt, what’s one activity that you and Olivia love doing together?

Matt Haviland [00:20:15]:
You’re gonna appreciate this one, Christopher. Going to University of Michigan football games.

Musical Outro Performer [00:20:20]:
Okay.

Dr. Christopher Lewis [00:20:21]:
And I’m gonna throw it back to you too, Olivia. And it doesn’t have to be the same thing. It’d be something different.

Olivia Haviland [00:20:25]:
Daddy-daughter dances or like donuts with dad or anything that’s like one-on-one mini golf, golf, and football games, definitely.

Dr. Christopher Lewis [00:20:33]:
Matt, if you could give Olivia one life lesson in a single sentence, What would it be?

Matt Haviland [00:20:37]:
Love God, love others.

Dr. Christopher Lewis [00:20:38]:
And Matt, what’s one thing you’ve learned about yourself since becoming a dad?

Matt Haviland [00:20:42]:
I think—

Olivia Haviland [00:20:43]:
The girl version of you.

Matt Haviland [00:20:45]:
That too. But I would say since becoming a dad, I think you learn how the word selfish feels strong, but I don’t think it’s out of line of when it’s just us. But when it was just me as a single dad or a single man versus becoming a father, it was all about me. I tell my new guys, I think I think being a parent drives you to a level of commitment to your children that would not be attained any other way.

Dr. Christopher Lewis [00:21:09]:
And Olivia, what advice would you give to other dads who want to build a lasting and meaningful relationship with their daughters?

Olivia Haviland [00:21:16]:
I would say put aside anything that can wait, and then also listen before either conversating or just listen to the full story instead of, like, interrupting, getting down to the point.

Dr. Christopher Lewis [00:21:32]:
And Matt?

Matt Haviland [00:21:32]:
Yeah, I think it’s so important to live out your values and what’s important to your family. We have a culture that is in many ways just so antagonistic and assaulting our daughters, and to be able to speak against that, letting our daughters know how beautiful they are, how valued they are, their virtue, their beauty, their tenderness. And this is an appropriate conversation for whether you’re raising a 5-year-old or a 20-year-old as well.

Olivia Haviland [00:21:58]:
I would also always say time over items too, because I know A lot of my friends’ parents will be like at work because they work third shift or something. They’ll be like, here’s money to go get something because I didn’t see you all day, or here’s money because I yelled at you kind of thing, instead of just sitting down, actually talking everything out. It helps grow a relationship too.

Dr. Christopher Lewis [00:22:20]:
Well, Matt, Olivia, I just want to say thank you. Thank you for spending time with me today, for sharing your journey in your own relationship. Matt is an author as well, and I should mention that he did write a book a number of years back called A Father’s Walk, a Christian-based resource for single fathers. And if people want to find out more about you, Matt, and what you’re doing, where should they go?

Matt Haviland [00:22:43]:
I don’t have a website, but you can email me. I’m completely open to that. My email is afatherswalk@gmail.com. That’s a fathers with an S on the end, walk at Gmail.

Dr. Christopher Lewis [00:22:54]:
Well, again, I want to say thank you. Thank you to both of you for your time, for sharing your And I wish you both all the best.

Matt Haviland [00:23:01]:
Thanks, Christopher.

Olivia Haviland [00:23:01]:
Thank you.

Dr. Christopher Lewis [00:23:02]:
That’s a wrap for this episode of The Dad and Daughter Connection. Thanks for joining us on this journey to build stronger bonds and raise confident, independent daughters. Remember, being an engaged dad isn’t about being perfect. It’s about being present. If you enjoyed this episode, be sure to subscribe and share it with a fellow dad. And don’t forget, you can find all our episodes at dadanddaughterconnection.com. Until next time, keep showing up, keep connecting, and keep being the dad she needs.

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Growing Together: Consistency, Challenges, and Connection with Daryl Potter

September 29, 2025 by dadofdivas

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Navigating the journey of fatherhood comes with unique joys and profound challenges, especially when it comes to building lasting, meaningful relationships with our daughters. In the latest episode of the Dad and Daughter Connection podcast, Dr. Christopher Lewis welcomes Daryl Potter—a seasoned banker, published author, and devoted father—for an inspiring conversation about the realities and rewards of raising both neurodivergent and neurotypical children.

Right from the start, this episode sets a heartfelt tone about the power of presence, vulnerability, and intentional connection. Dr. Lewis reminds us that fatherhood isn’t a quest for perfection, but a continual commitment to showing up, listening, and learning alongside our children. Daryl echoes this philosophy, sharing deeply personal stories from his nearly 30 years of parenting—a journey shaped by both typical milestones and unexpected challenges. His openness about raising a daughter with a degenerative, nonverbal condition is both moving and eye-opening, reminding listeners that every child’s journey (and every dad’s, too) comes with its own unexpected plot twists.

A central theme of the discussion is the idea that parenting is storytelling—not just the stories we tell our kids, but the stories we live alongside them. Daryl explains how he intentionally crafts and shares stories about his own mistakes, growth, and childhood, giving his children not only a sense of family identity, but also permission to be imperfect, learn, and evolve. Just as importantly, he emphasizes the impact of the “stories” parents tell through their actions: how we handle spilled milk, failed attempts, or tough seasons. Our reactions can either instill shame or build resilience and belonging.

The episode is packed with practical wisdom: the importance of consistency, the transformative power of focused listening, and the annual necessity of “rewriting” our own parenting narrative as our children grow. Daryl shares beautiful examples—like letting his daughter choose her own socks, even when communication is limited—that illustrate how honoring a child’s agency and individuality nurtures their confidence and sense of self.

For dads seeking actionable inspiration and heartfelt encouragement, this episode is a must-listen. It’s a testament to the fact that connection isn’t about being the perfect father—it’s about showing up, embracing the journey, and learning to see the world through your daughter’s eyes.

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TRANSCRIPT

Dr. Christopher Lewis [00:00:02]:
Welcome to the dad and Daughter Connection, the podcast for dads who want to build stronger bonds and raise confident, independent daughters.

Dr. Christopher Lewis [00:00:12]:
If you’re looking to build a stronger bond with your daughter and help her grow into a confident, independent woman, you’re in the right place. I’m Dr. Christopher Lewis, and the dad and Daughter Connection is the podcast where we dive into real stories, expert advice, and practical tips to help you navigate the incredible journey of fatherhood. In every episode, we’ll bring you conversations that inspire, challenge, and equip you to show up as the dad your daughter needs. So let’s get started, because being a great dad isn’t just about being there. It’s about truly connecting. Welcome back to the dad and Daughter Connection, where every week we have an opportunity to be able to delve a little bit deeper into the relationships that we want to build with our daughters. And every day we’re going to be pushing ourselves to challenge ourselves to be that much better.

Dr. Christopher Lewis [00:01:08]:
And we have to be willing and open to learn and to grow and to be able to know that we don’t know everything. We’re flawed. We’re going to make mistakes along the way. And that’s why this show exists, that’s why this podcast is here, and that’s why I love every week being able to talk with you, to be able to walk with you on this journey. You know, I’ve got two daughters, many of my guests have daughters. And in this journey that you’re on, be open, be open to listening and hearing what people are saying. Doesn’t mean that you’re going to take something out of every episode. I hope you do.

Dr. Christopher Lewis [00:01:40]:
But you’re going to hear things. You’re going to be able to learn things from every person that’s on. That’s why every week I bring different people on, different people with different experiences that can help you to be able to learn, to grow, to learn something a little bit new that you can put into that toolbox of your own. Now, today’s guest is Daryl Potter, a seasoned banker, published author, devoted father who spent nearly 30 years balancing demands of a high level career and the joys of challenging. The joys and challenges of raising both a neurodivergent child and a neurotypical one with grown children and a strong, enduring marriage. Darrell brings a unique blend of wisdom, humility, and heart to this parenting conversation. I’m really excited to be able to have him here, to be able to talk not only about his own experience in raising a daughter, but he also talks about the fact that he believes that parenting is storytelling both the stories we tell our kids and the ones we live ourselves. So today we’re going to be talking about that and delving a little bit deeper into the stories that we are sharing, but maybe the ones that we want to share as well and how we can better create stories to make us better parents in the end.

Dr. Christopher Lewis [00:02:55]:
Darrell, thanks so much for being here today. I’m really excited.

Daryl Potter [00:02:59]:
Pleasure to meet you, Chris, and to be here.

Dr. Christopher Lewis [00:03:01]:
We start our episodes with an opportunity to delve a little bit deeper into you as a dad. I said you have a daughter. And I guess one of the things that I want to know first is every father has a unique relationship with their kids. You have a unique relationship with your daughter. What is one of the most meaningful moments you’ve shared with your daughter and what made it so special?

Daryl Potter [00:03:24]:
I got 24 years of experiences to try to filter in a hurry. To be honest, the probably the best experience is really one of the first because it was formative for setting me up for the following almost quarter century. And that is I can remember we described when she first came home as it being like a baby honeymoon. And when you think about when you have a newborn daughter, she offers you nothing except noise when she’s hungry and smelly bits at certain times. And I can just remember those first few days of we’d take naps, my wife and I, in the afternoon and we’d settle her in beside us and I’m a little larger than my wife and and so she’d roll towards me and she’d wind up with her head pressed into my ribs, just quietly breathing to the rhythm a little quicker, but to the rhythm of my ribs. And I, I couldn’t fall asleep. I’d afraid of rolling over on her. And so we would just lay there.

Daryl Potter [00:04:15]:
She’d sleep and I would just feel her against me. And I think that’s been the I’d never had an experience like that in my life before, and it shaped the following 24 years because I recognized that I have to come to where you are right now. And at three days old, what she needed was a warm body to press against while she slept.

Dr. Christopher Lewis [00:04:36]:
Now, with our daughters, there’s always a balance. There’s a balance in being able to guide our daughters while also giving them independence and allowing them to grow into the people that they’re becoming. Talk to me about what you did to balance that for yourself.

Daryl Potter [00:04:54]:
So it’s interesting. I want to answer that question two ways because as you mentioned, I have A neurodivergent and a typical child. My son is the one who’s typical. So I’m a big believer that, you know, my wife and I have talked about we’re raising adults, not hobbies or reflections of ourselves or what have you. And so early on we had that really as a mindset to be thinking about the future as we transition through toddler to school to, you know, on and on. With our daughter, it’s quite different because she out intellectually, physically at about eight years old, her condition kicked in and more strongly and it’s a degenerative condition. So by age 12, she stopped talking. By age 14, she stopped walking, even with a walker and, and so on.

Daryl Potter [00:05:40]:
So the, a lot of, so it requires in, in her case, so much more deliberateness. But it’s the same philosophy as with our son. So as we, you know, for example, getting her dressed in the morning, it’s so important to let her choose her own socks. She can’t talk anymore, she can’t get around by herself. But we can bring to her a, a options and she can still pick. I want the pink ones today. You know, obviously with our, with our son it’s a, it’s a totally different, you know, game and, and I would love to have had the opportunity to do the same thing with a daughter because I think it’s so. It’s so needed in today’s society for females to be raised, for girls to be raised to be not adjuncts to the men in their lives, but to be their own person.

Daryl Potter [00:06:42]:
And as much as we can, we try to do that for our daughter. It’s just very difficult when she can’t even dress herself anymore. So it’s a different scenario.

Dr. Christopher Lewis [00:06:50]:
Definitely challenging. And I can only imagine, you know, trying to understand her needs and being able to truly be able to still build that bond while interpreting what is needed. So I guess in thinking about that, when as you said, she’s, she’s non verbal and she can’t do many of the things that like you said, your son can do. What are some intentional ways that you had to work and maybe you still are working today to continue to strengthen that bond with your daughter, especially during these challenges, the challenging times that you have.

Daryl Potter [00:07:36]:
Yeah, I think one of the challenges that certainly I was, I would have had going into fatherhood and I think I’ve observed around me in society, friends, what have you, is that I do think men, particularly when they start having children or at a life stage, career wise, marriage wise, personal maturity wise, very goal Oriented, very driven, whether it’s by, you know, family of origin issues or ambition issues or what have you. And there can be a really dangerous trap of missing moments, maybe even missing seasons. Our daughter was 10 days old when she we discovered that we had problems and we, we were event took a while to get a diagnosis. She essentially wasn’t supposed to live past age 3. Definitely wouldn’t make it into the teen years. The fact that she’s 24 makes her a bit miraculous. But what that did for me early on is I had those as I described moments few days old of like bliss and imagining the future. And you know, all I have to do is just lay here quietly and she’ll sleep to like literally a week later discovering she’s going to be gone before long, like weeks or months.

Daryl Potter [00:08:57]:
And it had, I think it could have many impacts denial or what have you. The effect it had on me was like reaching into my chest and just grabbing my heart and squeezing and I was like, I have to know you, I have to connect with you, I have to. You might not even live to language so I have to eye contact, physical touch. You must know that I love you and I must be able to read you before you’re gone. Now the little turkey wound up going on for almost 25 years now. And you know, so that was, that’s been false alarms every few days for 24 years, which is its own version of trauma. But it taught me how to be a better dad to my son as well, that need to learn focus. And I had a friend remind me of it actually quite explicitly maybe half a decade later in a situation where he reminded me, you know, they’re not going to be five forever.

Daryl Potter [00:10:00]:
A year from now you won’t have a five year old anymore. So if, if you want to get to know your five year old, one.

Dr. Christopher Lewis [00:10:05]:
Of the questions that I guess that comes to mind is as you’re continuing to support and to help your daughter now into adulthood and doing what you can to be able to probably still push her, challenge her and help her in many different ways to be able to live the best life that she can, what’s one way that you consistently are showing your daughter that she can always count on you?

Daryl Potter [00:10:31]:
You know, you used the key word there is consistency. For her to be able to count on us and it applies to neurotypical children just as equally if not more for her to know that she can count on us, we have to be consist whether it’s sleep deprivation or moodiness or what have you an Inconsistent parent is an inconsistent reality when a child is very young. And that can lead to a very unstable understanding of how to trust, how to relate, how to read, how to enjoy. It can have really long reaching implications. And a child at 10 may start to become cynical if the parent is too unpredictable. On the other hand, a child at 10 can just become hopelessly enmeshed in trying to adapt in well meaning but ultimately unhealthy ways that have to be undone later in adulthood if they’re going to have healthy relationships. So I think that consistency is absolutely essential, obviously positive consistency, but being reliable in your engagement that even I think sometimes. For example, I got a buddy of mine who I did a lot of camping with, family camping, and he was great because he had two rules, no falling in the fire or drowning in the lake.

Daryl Potter [00:11:43]:
Like those were his two rules when he was camping. And you know, I think sometimes we make too many rules and then don’t enforce them. And so that’s a kind of inconsistency that can feel well meaning. But maybe we need to think, you know, maybe there’s more rules than just not falling in the fire or drowning in the lake. But you know, that’s not a bad target to, you know, especially when they’re really young to help them understand and then be consistent. Like seriously, thou shalt not fall in the fire. But maybe let tripping over the 10 peg go is not exactly a crime.

Dr. Christopher Lewis [00:12:27]:
Now, you know, I, one of the things that also comes to mind is as your kids get older, you, you mentioned earlier, you’re not trying to create a replica of yourself, but you inevitably, as your kids are growing, you have dreams for, you have ideas for them, you have a picture in your mind’s eye of where you think they may be and then the reality sits in of where they end up. It may be very different as, as we, we’ve heard in the story of your daughter as well. So in talk and thinking about who your daughter is now, who she was as she’s grown up, how do you, I’m going to use that word, consistency. How do you consistently support your daughter and helping her to pursue her passions and dreams even when she can’t speak or do some things that you know, she wants to do.

Daryl Potter [00:13:16]:
If you think about it, verbal or nonverbal, we learn a lot about what our children want by watching them. How old is a child before they start really talking in a way that really makes sense? We might say two, but is it, isn’t it closer to four before it’s like okay, now I’m really fully getting cognitive communication here. But we don’t wait till 2 or 4 to understand what they want. And I think a parent who’s paying very close attention is not just listening, they’re watching. They’re being sensitive to the non verbal cues that their child is giving. As a matter of fact, your child is more likely to tell you the truth and the most intimate parts of what they want to express non verbally when they tell you yes, but their body says no. Once they’re past age 4 or whatever the age is, you can start pulling on that thread a little bit and teaching them how to communicate, teaching them that it’s okay to express, you know, a negative emotion or what have you. So in terms of how to help them onwards towards their dreams, sometimes that’s just helping them understand it’s okay to verbalize those dreams.

Daryl Potter [00:14:27]:
So do you want to go with your friends to do such? No, no, no, I don’t want to do that. But why that tone? Why that body language? Why that? And maybe it’s not, we have to learn some parenting skills. Maybe it’s not a frontal assault to challenge what doesn’t sound like a totally forthcoming answer, you know, and then to discover there’s a rupture in the friendship, or there’s been a hesitation as to whether they feel like they have what it takes or maybe like you don’t want them to do such and such and to be able to draw that out in dialogue because, you know, we’ve had these sort of conversations with my son and engaging with my daughter where they want to do things that they’re not going to be allowed to do. But by teaching them that it’s okay to have the conversation and not be in trouble for wanting what they’re not allowed. And we can talk through it and there may be alternatives.

Dr. Christopher Lewis [00:15:09]:
Now, I talked about the fact that you describe parenting as storytelling. What does that mean to you? And how has that idea shaped the way that you’ve raised your kids, especially your daughter?

Daryl Potter [00:15:20]:
One of the strongest ways, I think we first connected over a book that I’ve written, something more, Living well in a Broken World, that was published last year. Kind of a deep dive on the whole topic of storytelling as a process of unpacking. Call it the meaning of life, living well in a broken world. How to navigate the hungers and dissatisfactions and complexities of being an adult on a planet that doesn’t always do what I wanted to do when I wanted to do it. And so for the storytelling Aspect both in the book and in life. We’re storytelling creatures. We remember stories. I could give you a whole list of facts, but if I gave you a brief story, you know, a week from now, you might.

Daryl Potter [00:15:59]:
You’ll remember none of my facts, but you’ll remember the story. And the book starts with one of my kids asking me a question that leads to a story which led to the writing of the book. I see it working in a couple different ways. One is for myself. What story do I tell myself about my stage of fatherhood, about where my kids are at, about my role in my kid’s life? How can I take the present moment and tell a story to myself about the future and where. If this was a. I’m a novelist on the side as well, so. So the, you know, how would this plot play out if my actions with my child today were the opening of chapter one? Where is this relationship going? Based on how Saturday afternoon’s conversation went, it’s also incredibly powerful as a parenting tool by telling stories about ourselves to our kids.

Daryl Potter [00:16:49]:
Our kids are fascinated by the fact that their adult parents used to not know how the world worked. Surprise. Kind of still don’t. But we used to not know at the level of a 7 year old or a 10 year old. And the mistakes we made, what we learned from them. They learn so much from that. They learn our biographies. They learn a little bit of their own identity because if they’re not adopted, they probably share some genetic traits that are similar.

Daryl Potter [00:17:14]:
They learn also humility by accident because they hear you tell how you tripped and fell and how you overcame a particular situation or how a bad choice led to some extra work. So the process of telling stories about ourselves is deeply interesting to children and deeply memorable. I can remember stories my parents have told that tell many, but I think I remember every one of them from their childhoods.

Dr. Christopher Lewis [00:17:38]:
So as you think about stories, what kind of stories did you find yourself telling intentionally or unintentionally as your kids grew up? How did those stories impact their sense of identity and belonging?

Daryl Potter [00:17:52]:
The stories that were told about self for the benefit of their growth. So that was quite explicit. One of the biggest stories we tell is the ones that are also non verbal. So for example, child messes something up at the table, knocks the glass of milk over and breaks the glass and kind of screws up dinner a little bit. You tell a remarkably impacting, potentially decades long impacting story by how you respond. Are they a stupid person for knocking the milk over? Are they lectured for I told you not to put the milk at the edge of the table that how many times have we had this conversation? Or are they oh, did any of that glass get on you? Don’t move. Let me make sure we get pick up the glass first. Just make them feel protected.

Daryl Potter [00:18:37]:
Or is it funny? Holy cow, you hit the dog. Like what story do you tell by your natural reactions? Now the challenge with those kind of stories is they’re often immediate and not thought out. And therefore my advice to dads is you gotta a therapy term would be to do your work. You’ve got to really kind of unpack a little bit of maybe self. If your immediate reactions to unpleasant events tell the story you’d actually don’t like that plot on There may be a little bit of work unrelated to even being a dad needing to be done before but even those situations can be fantastic self storytelling opportunities to realize ah, I don’t like that the milk got spilled and I made it about something negative. It’s just milk. If the kid’s done it five times this week, maybe it’s time to get them a plastic tumbler A little too quick out of the sippy.

Dr. Christopher Lewis [00:19:26]:
Because I mentioned earlier and we’ve talked about this, that you’ve raised both a neurodivergent and a neurotypical child and that brings unique challenges. How did the story that you told yourself as a parent help you stay grounded and connected through those differences?

Daryl Potter [00:19:43]:
I’m going to slightly change your question or my answer, but I will touch on what you’re talking about because what I found was I had competing stories, particularly with my daughter, because I think society tells us stories. Some of them can be just quite negative and sexist in terms of she needs to be look a certain way, she needs to have a certain type of interaction model. A tomboy girl’s not acceptable, you know, what have you. But step beyond that. For a parent with a special needs child, there can be a story that some part of your psyche might tell yourself that you did this somehow or this somehow reflects on you like your child is your resume. And I was somehow didn’t produce a good one in terms of the society’s expectations of being tall and beautiful and smart and volleyball team and whatever is going on in your particular culture and neighborhood. So there’s a lot of competing stories that we have and then we have our family of origin stories in terms of what’s expected with the style of respect to grandparents or the type of clothes they wear or all sorts of things. There could be such a loud chorus of conflicting stories for us to filter through that.

Daryl Potter [00:20:54]:
Some of the most important story work I felt that occurred was the turning off everything and just learning what story matters to me and then learning to rewrite that story. So in my daughter’s case, when it became apparent that she wasn’t going to join the Olympics or the debate team, I needed to make sure that my story didn’t have Olympic athlete or verbal jiu jitsu star anywhere in my internal makeup. The end goal to the story of my daughter, this is her life, her health, her biology, and in the case of, of my typical child, I think more in terms of also their dreams and their specific intellectual gifts and so on. And I need to help them achieve their story, not play out one of the many, including some that might be just my own personal stories that I want them to wish fulfill.

Dr. Christopher Lewis [00:21:45]:
And thinking about that, I think sometimes we think of storytelling as something that we do for our kids. But how can dads listen for the stories that their daughters are trying to tell about themselves and the world around them?

Daryl Potter [00:22:04]:
I love that you asked that question because I really believe that sometimes and this doesn’t just apply to parenting, this applies to marriage and being a manager at work and whatever else. Honestly, in so many situations, loving comes down to listening. The time given to letting another human being know that you have my full attention. And this was true when my kids were young, before smartphones were a thing. I think it’s just heightened now in an era of smartphones to really know that I put that thing down and we have eye contact. In the case of my daughter, it also helps with physical contact. She responds very well when I’m with her. Sit cross legged in front of her and hold her hands.

Daryl Potter [00:22:43]:
She’ll let me know if she’s not in the mood for that today. But that bonding is so important to the sense of connection. Humans need to be listened to and children all the more. Prior to being your child, they didn’t exist. You are shaping their understanding of how reality, reality works and whether or not they matter in that reality. And that bank is being filled up one coin at a time with every second you give them.

Dr. Christopher Lewis [00:23:08]:
Now, looking back, were there moments where you had to rewrite your parenting story? Maybe a time when you realized that the narrative you were living no longer served your daughter or your family 100%?

Daryl Potter [00:23:22]:
I would say there is at least an annual exercise like that, because my wife and I have described the whole process of parenting as being one long process of letting go. When a child is born, you decide everything they can cry if they want, but you’re still the one deciding if the bum gets changed or the tummy gets fed. The micromanaging control that a parent has at birth is just kind of bizarre. But by the time they’re 20, they should be adults. They should be able to, if they’re not in school, pay the rent if they are in school, show up to classes on their own and have a plan for the future. And not mom and dad’s plan. They should be having their own plans and putting those plans place. But the bridge from infancy to 20 can’t start at 18 or 12.

Daryl Potter [00:24:09]:
Our son got his first chores when he was 4 and a half or 5. So that every single year we have had to have a process of telling ourselves a new story of what parenting now means for this age group. And gradually, the way we phrased it is, is we would extend both privileges and responsibilities was how we packaged it. We would extend additional privileges, meaning like staying up later or food choices or whatever when they’re young. And responsibilities could be something essential, simple as taking the recycling to the garage or whatever, but pairing privileges and responsibilities together as the children advance through the years. So it’s not just a case of hey, I’m your chauffeur from 8 to 16 and then you’re on your own. But there’s a real intimate connection between their expanding maturity and their expanding responsibility. And that starts with parents telling themselves the story of they turned seven, I don’t have a six year old anymore.

Daryl Potter [00:25:03]:
What does talking to a seven year old sound like? Because if it sounds a lot like six not growing as a parent or helping them grow, and if I’m only responding to them, I’m probably going to eventually frustrate them and we’re going to get into some negative pushback come teen years if I’m always the one lagging as they grow.

Dr. Christopher Lewis [00:25:20]:
Very true. So we already mentioned your daughter’s 24, your son’s 21. Now that your children are grown, how do you see the stories that you told and lived echoed in the people that they’ve become? And what legacy do you hope that those stories leave behind?

Daryl Potter [00:25:36]:
Wonderful question. They are easier when we talk about my son because he’s neurotypical. But I think that it’s true for my daughter as well. They are more confident in themselves, in their place in the world, in their ability to navigate within the limitations of their life situations. My daughter being the one more limited. Of course, my son’s limits tend to be more economic because he’s in third year university. But as a result of that they always have known they are loved. They always have heard stories to learn from our mistakes so that they could avoid them.

Daryl Potter [00:26:11]:
We have worked very hard to not let that spilled milk be be an opportunity for verbal abuse or just using that as an illustrative example and letting them advance from age 6 to 7 and then making sure 8 looks different. The result is neither one of them are socially desperate. Neither one of them in the way that I would describe myself at that age or, or I think I can speak for my wife in terms of her background. Neither one of them are socially insecure. Neither one of them are I’ll speak more for my son now socially inept. My daughter’s. Well, she has seizures and stuff so that kind of screws up social interaction when you you throw that in with non verbal but the point is even with my daughter at times I look at her and I think you are more secure with us than I can ever remember being growing up and I know my wife could ever remember being growing up and she hasn’t been able to say a word to us for over a decade and I don’t know how much of what we say to her she fully understands anymore because there’s a cognitive decline there. Although she’s cheeky by nature.

Daryl Potter [00:27:13]:
So I think sometimes she pretends she doesn’t understand just she’s still got a personality. So I think that that process on the other side. First of all, parenting is the hardest thing I’ve ever done in my life. Tied maybe for doing a decent job of marriage, fantastic. But requires a level of engagement that didn’t exist when I was a bachelor, it’s very satisfying to come out the other side and to see a lot of hard work pay off. Now when you’re dealing with a special needs child, payoff looks differently than it does on our son who’s going to head off to fourth year before long. But nevertheless payoff in emotional rewards and practical rewards as we see them develop.

Dr. Christopher Lewis [00:27:49]:
Now we always finish our interviews with what I like to call our dad Connection six where I ask you six more questions to delve a little bit deeper into you as a dad. What’s one word that describes your relationship with your daughter?

Daryl Potter [00:28:01]:
Close.

Dr. Christopher Lewis [00:28:02]:
What’s the best piece of dad advice you ever received?

Daryl Potter [00:28:05]:
When my son was in his Pokemon phase and one of my camping buddies took me aside and said you better learn to love Pokeman now or he will talk about it with his friends instead. And by the time he gets to 10 you will have trained him not to talk to you.

Dr. Christopher Lewis [00:28:20]:
What’s one activity that you and your daughter love doing together?

Daryl Potter [00:28:23]:
Going for walks in the woods. Ever since she was a baby she’s loved trees and I’m a bonsai guy. So between the two of us, she might get that from me.

Dr. Christopher Lewis [00:28:29]:
If you could give your daughter one life lesson in a single sentence, what would it be?

Daryl Potter [00:28:33]:
Your mom and dad love you unconditionally and adore you. You don’t measure up to the mentioned the Olympics and the debate team. It doesn’t change our love for you for a second.

Dr. Christopher Lewis [00:28:45]:
What’s one thing that you’ve learned about yourself since becoming a dad?

Daryl Potter [00:28:50]:
But love isn’t about what you get, it’s what you give. Infants teach you that, but so do 10 year olds when they’re a little self and you start to realize I love you anyways.

Dr. Christopher Lewis [00:29:01]:
And finally, what advice would you give to other dads who want to build a lasting and meaningful relationship with their daughters?

Daryl Potter [00:29:09]:
Get down on their level, like literally sitting on the floor if they’re really young. Get that eye contact and learn to understand the human behind those eyes as opposed to society or our wishes or whatever else might impose between as a filter. Strip away the filters and learn the human. There’s so much to be discovered and behind a daughter’s eyes. And they will learn not to tell you who they really are. If you teach them that you only want to see the screen between but focus on who they really are. That’s magic.

Dr. Christopher Lewis [00:29:45]:
Well, Darrell, I just want to say thank you. Thank you for being here today, for sharing your own ongoing journey that you’re if people want to find out more about you, where should they go?

Daryl Potter [00:29:53]:
They can find me on my website, darrelpotter.com that’s a D A1R Y L.

Dr. Christopher Lewis [00:29:59]:
Potterlikeharry.com Again Daryl, thank you. Thank you for being here today. Thank you for sharing your story and I wish you all the best.

Daryl Potter [00:30:06]:
Thank you Christopher. It’s been fantastic to talk to you.

Dr. Christopher Lewis [00:30:09]:
That’s a wrap for this episode of the dad and Daughter Connection. Thanks for joining us on this journey to build stronger bonds and raise confident, independent daughters. Remember, being an engaged dad isn’t about being perfect, it’s about being present. If you enjoyed this episode, be sure to subscribe and share it with a fellow dad. And don’t forget, you can find all our episodes@dadanddaughterconnection.com until next time, keep showing up, keep connecting and keep being the dad she needs.

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The Right Way to Praise Focusing on Effort-Not Just Talent

May 30, 2025 by dadofdivas

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Hey dads! Welcome to Dad Connections in 5, your quick, practical guide to building a stronger bond with your daughter—one simple action at a time. I’m Dr. Christopher Lewis, and today, we’re talking about the right way to praise your daughter—focusing on effort, not just talent.

We all want our daughters to feel confident and capable. But did you know that HOW you praise her can actually shape the way she sees herself and her abilities?

Today, I’m going to show you why effort-based praise is so important, how it builds resilience, and practical ways to start using it today.

Why Effort-Based Praise Matters

A lot of times, we say things like:

  • “You’re so smart!”
  • “You’re a natural!”
  • “Wow, you’re really talented at that!”

And while those compliments sound great, they can actually have an unintended effect—making her believe that success is about being naturally gifted, rather than about hard work, practice, and growth.

Instead, when we praise effort, we teach her that:

  • Hard work matters more than being “naturally good” at something.
  • Mistakes aren’t failures—they’re learning opportunities.
  • She is in control of her growth and success.

How to Shift from Talent-Based to Effort-Based Praise

  • Praise the Process, Not Just the Outcome

Instead of saying:

  • “You’re so good at math!”

Try:

  • “I love how you kept working through that tough problem—that’s real determination!”

This reinforces that success comes from persistence.

  • Highlight Hard Work Over Perfection

Instead of saying:

  • “Wow, you won first place—you’re amazing!”

Try:

  • “You practiced so hard for this, and it really paid off! I’m so proud of your dedication.”

Winning is great, but the effort is what truly matters.

  • Encourage a Growth Mindset

When she struggles, instead of saying:

  • “It’s okay, maybe this just isn’t your thing.”

Try:

  • “You’re not there yet, but every time you practice, you get better!”

This teaches her that skills are built, not just given.

  • Praise Her Willingness to Try New Things

If she’s hesitant to try something new, remind her:

  • “It’s okay to not be great at something right away—what matters is that you’re willing to try.”

This boosts confidence and makes her more open to challenges.

Quick Takeaways: Start Today!

Here’s your challenge: The next time you praise your daughter, focus on her effort instead of just the result.

  • Notice her hard work and persistence.
  • Encourage her to see challenges as learning opportunities.
  • Reinforce that growth happens with time, effort, and practice.

This small shift builds resilience, confidence, and a lifelong love of learning.

That’s it for today’s Dad Connections in 5! If you found this helpful, share it with another dad who wants to empower his daughter with the right kind of praise. Until next time—keep encouraging, keep supporting, and keep helping her grow.

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Fostering Creativity and Wonder: Gianna Davy’s Guide for Dads and Daughters

May 5, 2025 by dadofdivas

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In the latest episode of “The Dad and Daughter Connection,” Dr. Christopher Lewis invites Gianna Davy to share her insights on nurturing curiosity in children and the profound impact it can have on the father-daughter bond. Gianna, a lifelong artist, educator, and author, delves into her own experiences growing up and how her father’s support shaped her journey.

The episode kicks off with Dr. Lewis reminding listeners of the podcast’s mission: to help fathers build stronger relationships with their daughters. Every week, he brings on guests who share real stories and practical advice to inspire dads on their journey of fatherhood.

This week, Gianna Davy steps into the spotlight to talk about her new children’s book, “How Do I Wonder?” and the role of curiosity in a child’s development. Gianna reflects on her relationship with her dad, who was instrumental in fostering her inquisitive nature. He nurtured her artistic side by teaching her to see the world through an artist’s lens, turning everyday experiences into moments of wonder.

How Do I Wonder

Gianna emphasizes the importance of authenticity in the parent-child relationship. She shares how her father’s playful spirit and transparency allowed her to see him as a real person, not just a parent. This authenticity, she argues, is key to building lasting and meaningful bonds.

The conversation also touches on the challenges today’s parents face in a fast-paced, technology-driven world. Gianna encourages fathers to embrace moments of wonder and not shy away from admitting when they don’t have all the answers. By modeling curiosity and open-mindedness, dads can encourage their daughters to explore the world with an inquisitive spirit.

Listeners will find inspiration in Gianna’s stories and advice, particularly on how simple, everyday activities can cultivate creativity and connection. From going on nature hikes to engaging in thoughtful discussions sparked by her book, fathers can find numerous ways to engage with their daughters meaningfully.

“How Do I Wonder?” is not just a book; it’s a tool for transformation. It invites readers to ponder the unanswerable and explore the boundless potential of their imaginations. Gianna hopes her book will inspire parents and children to forge stronger emotional connections through shared curiosity.

Tune into the full episode to explore these themes and more, and discover how to be the dad your daughter truly needs. Whether you’re seeking practical tips or a fresh perspective on parenting, this episode offers invaluable insights that every father can learn from. Be sure to listen and join the community of dads committed to raising confident, independent individuals.

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TRANSCRIPT

Dr. Christopher Lewis [00:00:02]:
Welcome to the dad and daughter connection, the podcast for dads who want to build stronger bonds and raise confident independent daughters.

Dr. Christopher Lewis [00:00:12]:
If you’re looking to build a stronger bond with your daughter and help her grow into a confident, independent woman, you’re in the right place. I’m doctor Christopher Lewis, and the dad and daughter connection is the podcast where we dive into real stories, expert advice, and practical tips to help you navigate the incredible journey of fatherhood. In every episode, we’ll bring you conversations that inspire, challenge, and equip you to show up as the dad your daughter needs. So let’s get started. Because being a great dad isn’t just about being there, it’s about truly connecting. Welcome back to the dad and daughter connection, where every week we have an opportunity to be able to connect together, to work together, to be able to build those strong relationships, those connections that you want to have with your own daughter. And I love being able to come back every week and have these conversations with you, to walk alongside you. As a father of two myself, there have definitely been times where you’d want those stronger connections and you want those stronger relationships.

Dr. Christopher Lewis [00:01:19]:
And sometimes you make mistakes, but you grow, you build from those opportunities, those experiences that you’ve had. And that’s why every week I love being able to bring you different people, different guests with different experiences that can share some of the experiences that they’ve had in their life or resources that they have that can help you to build that stronger connection with your own daughter. Today we’ve got another great guest. Gianna Davey is joining us. And Gianna is a lifelong dancer, artist, and educator whose career spans performance, teaching, and creative pursuits, lives out in California, and has a brand new book that is called How Do I Wonder? And I’ll tell you, I had an opportunity to read the book and it’s a wonderful book that really delves into allowing your kids to see the world from a very unique perspective and embrace curiosity, which is so important in working with our young kids, but also encouraging our older kids to keep being curious about the world around us. So we’re gonna talk about her own experience as a daughter herself, but we’re also going to talk about her new book. And I’m really excited to have her here. Gianna, thanks so much for being here today.

Gianna Davy [00:02:32]:
Thank you so much for having me. It’s an honor.

Dr. Christopher Lewis [00:02:34]:
Well, I’m really excited to have you here today and to be able to delve a little bit deeper into you as an author, but also you talk about your own relationship with your own father. And I guess as we think about your relationship with your own father, tell me what’s one thing that your father did that made you truly feel seen, heard, and valued as a daughter?

Gianna Davy [00:02:58]:
Oh, interesting question. I mean, there’s so many things, I think, that he did. But a little background on my dad first because I think that’s helpful to understand him as a person a little. He is an artist himself, kind of in the truest sense of the word. And in that he I mean, he did go to art school for college, but that’s really how he sees the world and experiences the world very much. And as an artist myself, I think there was a natural connection there. And so one way that he made me feel seen, I think, is just acknowledging that as a kid, as I was growing up and never pushing it, never forcing me into anything, but just seeing what I enjoyed to do. And then I think he actually really enjoyed meeting me on that wavelength.

Gianna Davy [00:03:48]:
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Gianna Davy [00:03:49]:
a very playful person and still continues to play, honestly. And so I think meeting me on that wavelength and teaching me what he knows from there. Like, I mean, my dad taught me how to draw as a kid. I think he saw that I liked to draw. And, I mean, he he has so many amazing paintings that he’s made over the years. So he really and it’s a beautiful lesson, I think, when you mirror learning to draw specifically, but also with learning to see the world around you. Because when you are taught how to draw something very clearly, and he was very specific about it, but he’s really teaching me how to see everything in a different way. And I couldn’t help but apply that.

Gianna Davy [00:04:28]:
I mean, I still think about that forever and ever. When he first was teaching me how to draw a face and some hands and he was saying, you know, they’re the hardest things to draw because they’re the things that people see the most of. And they’re very unique and they’re very personal. And so and, like, from then on, it’s like you can’t look at a face or hands without, like, noticing, like, the shadows here and there. And it just it’s this art of noticing out in the world and seeing everything around you in through the lens of a photographer or a painter or whatever that I think I value so much. And I really just appreciate that he saw that in me as a kid and just sort of allowed me to play around with it.

Dr. Christopher Lewis [00:05:05]:
Now in what you just said, it seems like there was a number of moments that really helped you to not only become the artist that you are today, that your father helped to shepherd you in that direction. But as you think back to the experiences that you’ve had with your dad, was there any other specific moments where your dad’s support or guidance really had a significant impact on your growth or confidence?

Gianna Davy [00:05:29]:
Well, a specific moment. I mean, it’s almost like there’s so many. I feel very grateful. I’m such a lucky human to not even be able to think of one moment at this time. I’m an only child also. I feel like I should mention. So I have a super it’s like a heightened relationship with your parents in that respect. And so in terms of one, I mean, they really have supported everything that I have done wholeheartedly and not in a pushy way in any way.

Gianna Davy [00:05:57]:
They see who I am and are like, how can I help?

Dr. Christopher Lewis [00:06:01]:
Are there any things that you wish that your dad would have done differently when it came to building the relationship that you have together?

Gianna Davy [00:06:10]:
Yeah. Okay. So, and I’m a parent myself too, so it’s always interesting to think about these things, like, when you’re in the middle of the stage. So I’m gonna get to my point, but I’m gonna tell a story first. So I don’t know if you have ever heard of the festival Burning Man. So I’ve gone many times. It’s a really incredible place to be with art and whatnot, and the engineering and whatnot in all of the sculptures that are there, incredible. And I went, and I came back, and I was like, dad, you have got to go to this place.

Gianna Davy [00:06:40]:
You will be your mind will be blown with the incredible art that’s there. So he came with me the second year, which was a huge bonding experience for us because it’s it was just the two of us, and it was like a nine hour drive there and an entire week there with my best childhood friend and who brought her mom too. So, anyway, the whole week and then the whole drive back, and I feel like I was probably 23 or 24 or something. The drive there was one experience. The drive back was another because we had spent this entire week together in an environment we had never been. All this to say is that in the drive back, he started telling me all of these stories about him when he was around my age at that time that were stories I had never heard before. And it was the most wonderful thing to get this insight into who he actually is and was in the world as a real human, because I think that it’s so often parents are almost like protecting everything that you’re supposed to do all the time. But the reality is we are all perfectly imperfect humans, and I think it was a huge moment for me to just hear all of this background about him when he was a teenager and a young person.

Gianna Davy [00:07:59]:
And it made me see him, and it made us bond so much more than we had. So if there’s one thing that I kind of wish that I could change, I wouldn’t even change it, but it’s just that we had more of that earlier on and continue more of it even now.

Dr. Christopher Lewis [00:08:17]:
Now this strong relationship that you have with your own father, how has it influenced the way that you navigate life, relationships, or challenges today?

Gianna Davy [00:08:26]:
Like I mentioned earlier, he is an incredibly playful person still to at this point, and I am eternally grateful for how he plays with my own kids. And so I think that alone is and I think my cousin said it really well when we were kids once. He said, you know, your dad is, like, one of the cousins. Like, he would just be the one that was playing with all of us in the pool when we were having family gatherings. So I think my takeaway from him and how it’s influenced me is never stop that young at heart feeling and interaction with the world because your relationships can really fizzle if you kind of stop being alive to everything around you. And and he really models that for me. So I’m very grateful for that.

Dr. Christopher Lewis [00:09:09]:
What’s something that your dad has taught you that’s made a big impact on your life?

Gianna Davy [00:09:16]:
That anything is musical instrument. No. I mean, that’s my silly answer, but that’s a huge question. Well, circling back to I think I kind of already touched upon this in the first question you answered, but he really has taught me how to see the world differently. Like I said, he went to art school. His career and profession, he was a videographer and a photographer, but he had paintings in a museum, and he pretty much can play any instrument that you can imagine. But every movie we’ve ever watched, for example, he would always be sitting there and going, now do you see that camera angle, or do you notice that this shot hasn’t completely like, has been one shot and never cut? Like, he just is always seeing things differently than I would have thought to see. And that inevitably, like and like I said, it applies to, like, the everything’s a musical instrument.

Gianna Davy [00:10:05]:
He can interact with the world differently than anybody I’ve ever noticed. And so I think that’s what he’s really taught me, that there’s not really any one way that things are supposed to be. And I think there’s so much intelligence captured in creativity, and it’s often not valued as much as I think it should be. And I think that we need to have all the different perspectives, and having somebody that’s always accidentally showing you a different way of seeing things is incredibly valuable. So

Dr. Christopher Lewis [00:10:38]:
Now if you could spend an entire day with your dad doing anything, what would it look like?

Gianna Davy [00:10:42]:
Gosh. It’s been so long since I get so caught up in life. Holy moly. I think we would probably go on a hike together. As a kid, I we pretty much everything we did as a family was camping. That was that was it. So, I mean, I just have so many good memories out in nature, which is another just wonderful way to cultivate, like, super healthy relationships in my opinion, because nature is just it’s the it’s the ultimate sort of end zone and home base for everyone, whether we have a chance to really connect with it or not all the time. So I think I’d wanna just go on a really super long hike and maybe just take a bunch of pictures, bring our cameras and just take pictures of things, of beautiful things.

Dr. Christopher Lewis [00:11:24]:
What advice would you give to other dads who want to build a lasting and meaningful relationship with their daughters?

Gianna Davy [00:11:31]:
My advice is don’t be afraid to let your daughters know who you really are as a real person. I think authenticity is extremely valuable when it comes to cultivating a real relationship. You can’t be best friends with somebody if you’re not willing to let them really know who you are or to present an authentic version of yourself. You know, you think about who you’re absolutely best friends with. They know all the parts of you, the good parts, the bad parts, everything. So I think it’s a very difficult thing to do, but that has to carry through with parent child, father daughter, etcetera, relationships as well. You can’t have a true relationship with somebody while also being a little bit fake or presenting a version of yourself that isn’t truly authentic. And so I think don’t be afraid to be real with your kids.

Dr. Christopher Lewis [00:12:31]:
Now I mentioned that you’ve got a new book that’s out. How do I wonder? And I would love to hear your origin story. I’d love for you to share the inspiration behind the book and why you feel that curiosity is such an important theme for you to explore.

Gianna Davy [00:12:49]:
Yeah. Well, I wanna be clear. It’s a children’s book also just so that everybody can envision it a little bit more in their head. So the inspiration was 100% my own kids. I have two boys, so I have a mother son relationship, which is different. So as they were growing up, they’re nine and 12 now. So when they were little, little, you know, as they just started waking up to the world and speaking, they would ask me just the most incredible questions and, like, mind blowing questions that I was like, how have I never even thought of this? Like, year three. And I just would write them down and write them down because they were so amazing.

Gianna Davy [00:13:25]:
And so there was this sort of, for years, like, brewing this book that I didn’t even know what it was gonna be. But really when it came down to it and I started writing it, it’s one of those things that it writes itself in the end. And really it’s about 100% about just exploring the world around you, the power and magic behind creativity. And I think creativity, like I said earlier, is really, like, the base for all intellectual pursuits as well. I think the most intelligent and incredible genius people are the people that are willing to think outside the box. And and I’m trying to create a book that doesn’t just tell kids go outside and think thoughts or whatever, but actually makes them think thoughts in the process. And the questions that are in this book, it’s sort of a book of questions. It’s got a bit of a story, a little bit of an adventure line.

Gianna Davy [00:14:17]:
But all of the questions that are in the book, I was very careful to make them sort of unanswerable per se in the sense that there’s not really one right or wrong answer. They’re all just meant to be sort of pondered and thought about. Like, one of them was one that my son had sent, and it was, did dinosaurs know how to smile? He just turned to me and was like, did dinosaurs know how to smile? And I was like, I guess we don’t know. We never really will. So something to think about. So, anyway, that’s the gist of the book is really just trying to cultivate and inspire kids to really think about things in a different way and interact with their world in a different way and just value who they are and the power of their own beautiful minds and how you really don’t even need any toys or anything. You can just go outside and interact with nature and the world and just build up your brain in the most incredible way.

Dr. Christopher Lewis [00:15:08]:
In building up your brain in in really the in the book itself, I guess as I read the book, I kind of had a question of when I think about fathers and the role that they play, what role do you feel that fathers can play in encouraging curiosity and wonder in their own kids, especially with their daughters?

Gianna Davy [00:15:27]:
I think modeling it. I think you have to not be afraid to be a curious person yourself and continue to question things around you. It’s okay to not know the answer to something also. It’s okay to look at something and be like, gee, I wonder why it’s like that or just seeing something and noticing something and drawing attention to your kiddo. Yeah. But I think it’s really, you know, it’s not about always knowing the answer. It’s sometimes just about exploring the possibilities.

Dr. Christopher Lewis [00:15:57]:
I love that. Now, in the book itself, you are encouraging kids to ask those open ended questions. What advice would you give to dads who want to nurture their daughter’s natural curiosity?

Gianna Davy [00:16:10]:
Go outside and interact with the outside world as much as possible. But, you know, I realize it’s not always possible to just be on some grand adventure out in the woods or nature or anything. But any place whose purpose is to sort of play and be creative, but I don’t necessarily wanna say go and, you know, there’s, like, arcades and things like that where you can go and and play. But that’s not really that’s that’s a very defined kind of play that has one purpose and one end zone. So open ended experiences is where there’s no one version of what you’re supposed to be doing. That’s what I recommend, especially for younger kids.

Dr. Christopher Lewis [00:16:56]:
Now, as you said, your book has a number of prompts or open ended things for people to think about. How do you think that fathers can use this book as a tool to spark meaningful conversations with their kids?

Gianna Davy [00:17:10]:
Well, I hope that the whole book, the whole time people are reading it, meaningful conversations are being sparked automatically. I think don’t rush through the book. As you’re reading it, as there’s a question, ask your child, ask your daughter, what do you think the answer to that question is? And then say, like, what your answer is and ask someone else and compare and be in awe of how many different versions there even could possibly be. It’s a total conversation starter. Read the book once and then just go through again and just think about the questions, you know? Yeah. That’s my recommendation.

Dr. Christopher Lewis [00:17:43]:
As your kids get older, they see the world in different ways. It is a fast paced world, and with technology being what it is, there’s answers that are only a click away. How can dads teach their daughters to embrace the joy of wondering instead of always seeking immediate answers?

Gianna Davy [00:18:06]:
Oh, gosh. Yeah. That’s such a tough one because I think we are all so guilty of the, oh, let’s just Google it. It is part of the culture of today, 100%. And it’s a really hard ask for parents these days who are so typically overwhelmed and overworked to not just revert to the technology all the time for everybody’s sort of quick fix, save the moment situation. But one thing I will say is that if and or you know, as much as you possibly can, try to not fall back on the quick fix answer technology, iPad, cell phone, whatever, etcetera, etcetera, it really pays off in the long run. And so it’s like one of those things where you just put a little bit more effort in the beginning for greater gain at the end is if it’s at all possible. But I’m saying this with huge empathy of everyone’s state as a parent in the world and how difficult that can be.

Gianna Davy [00:19:08]:
But I’ll just say with my kids, like we really tried to hold off on that constant, yeah, just relying on the Internet and whatnot. And they’re still very curious, I will say. I’m very happy about that.

Dr. Christopher Lewis [00:19:22]:
Now as you said, this book is geared toward young readers. What impact do you hope that this book has on the next generation next generation of young readers?

Gianna Davy [00:19:32]:
Well, I just hope it gives them something to think about and sparks all those little neurons in their brain to, like, find new pathways. I think, you know, you have to be able to envision something that isn’t even right in front of you to really be a creator or an innovator or an inventor or anything in this world. You can’t only just stick with the things that are right in front of you. So I’m really hoping that just it only takes just a couple of inspirational moments. I mean, I think we’ve all had those moments in life when you just something clicks and you just see something a little different differently than you than you had. And it just shows you, oh, there’s all these different layers to life and to the world. It’s not only this one layer, this one texture, this one color. So I think if I could just give just that little bit of inspiration to somebody where they just are sort of pushed ahead into a new realm of thinking, that would be the ultimate joy for me.

Dr. Christopher Lewis [00:20:28]:
Now we’re definitely encouraging all of you to go out, grab this book because of all of the prompts that are in there. Now, Gianna, are there specific activities or follow-up discussions that you recommend for fathers and daughters after reading the book together?

Gianna Davy [00:20:44]:
Like I said, I really I’m just hoping that that it’s not just a read it through and end there kind of situation. I really hope that it becomes an open book on the coffee table and and a discussion that continues at the dinner table, comparing ideas, and it just can’t end with the last page.

Dr. Christopher Lewis [00:21:04]:
Now if people are interested in learning more about the book and how they can connect with you more on insights into fostering curiosity in kids, where’s the best place for them to go?

Gianna Davy [00:21:14]:
Well, they can go to my website, which is giannadavey.com, or I have an Instagram page as well that’s named after my first book, actually, which was called No One Owns the Colors. So which is yeah. It’s another book that I wrote. But you can find the easiest would probably be jiannadavey.com because you could just Google my name, and then it has the information about both of the books that I’ve written and other sort of creative adventures I’m on.

Dr. Christopher Lewis [00:21:40]:
And we’ll put links in the notes today. Gianna, I just wanna say thank you. Thank you for sharing your story with the masses, with all of us today, sharing your story with your own father and what he did to be able to inspire that curiosity in yourself, and I truly wish you all the best.

Gianna Davy [00:21:56]:
Thank you so much for having me. This This was absolutely lovely.

Dr. Christopher Lewis [00:21:59]:
That’s a wrap for this episode of the dad and daughter connection. Thanks for joining us on this journey to build stronger bonds and raise confident, independent daughters. Remember, being an engaged dad isn’t about being perfect. It’s about being present. If you enjoyed this episode, be sure to subscribe and share it with a fellow dad. And don’t forget, you can find all our episodes at dadanddaughterconnection.com. Until next time, keep showing up, keep connecting, and keep being the dad she needs.

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How to Teach Your Daughter to Believe in Herself

May 2, 2025 by dadofdivas

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Hey dads! Welcome to Dad Connections in 5, your quick, practical guide to building a stronger bond with your daughter—one intentional action at a time. I’m Dr. Christopher Lewis, and today, we’re talking about something every dad wants for his daughter—helping her believe in herself.

Confidence isn’t something we’re born with—it’s built over time through encouragement, experiences, and the way people treat us. And as a dad, you play a HUGE role in shaping how your daughter sees herself.

So today, I’ll give you simple, practical ways to help her develop self-belief, resilience, and confidence—so she grows up knowing her worth.

Why Your Role as a Dad is So Important

Your daughter looks to you for validation and reassurance—whether she’s 5, 15, or 25. When you consistently show her that she’s capable, valued, and strong, she starts to believe it herself.

?? She’ll take more chances.
?? She won’t be afraid to fail.
?? She’ll trust her own instincts, instead of looking for approval from others.

And that? That’s priceless.

5 Ways to Help Your Daughter Believe in Herself

  1. Praise Her Effort, Not Just the Outcome

It’s easy to say, “You’re so smart!” or “You’re amazing at soccer!”—but real confidence comes from knowing she can work through challenges, even when things don’t come easily.

Instead, say:
? “I love how hard you worked on that.”
? “I saw how you kept trying even when it was tough—that’s what makes you strong.”
? “You didn’t give up, and that’s what really matters.”

Teaching her that effort matters more than perfection builds long-term confidence.

  1. Encourage Her to Take Risks

Confidence grows outside of the comfort zone. Let her:

  • Try a new hobby, even if she’s nervous.
  • Speak up in class or at a family gathering.
  • Make decisions without second-guessing herself.

When she hesitates, remind her: “Being brave doesn’t mean not being scared—it means doing it anyway.”

  1. Help Her Reframe Failures

Every mistake is a lesson. Instead of letting failures shake her confidence, teach her how to learn and grow from them.

If she messes up on a test, loses a game, or makes a mistake, say:
? “What’s one thing you can do differently next time?”
? “Every time you fail, you’re learning something new.”
? “Even the best people in the world failed before they succeeded.”

This helps her see failure as a stepping stone, not a dead end.

  1. Show Her Confidence in Action

Your daughter learns from watching you. If she sees you:

  • Handling challenges without panicking…
  • Speaking up with confidence…
  • Trying new things without fear of failure…

She’ll start to mirror that same belief in herself.

You don’t have to be perfect—just show her how to keep moving forward, even when things don’t go as planned.

  1. Tell Her You Believe in Her—Often

Sometimes, the most powerful thing you can do is say it out loud:

? “I believe in you.”
? “I know you can handle this.”
? “You are strong, capable, and enough—just as you are.”

Hearing those words from her dad can shape how she sees herself for years to come.

Quick Takeaways: Start Today!

Here’s your challenge: Before the day ends, tell your daughter one thing that makes her strong, capable, or brave.

? Praise her effort, not just the result.
? Encourage her to take risks and step outside her comfort zone.
? Help her reframe failures as learning moments.
? Model confidence so she sees it in action.
? Tell her you believe in her—because your words matter.

When she hears these things over and over, she won’t just believe in herself—she’ll carry that belief with her for a lifetime.

That’s it for today’s Dad Connections in 5! If this resonated with you, share it with another dad who wants to raise a confident, self-assured daughter. Until next time—keep showing up, keep believing in her, and keep being the dad she needs.

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TRANSCRIPT

Dr. Christopher Lewis [00:00:02]:
Welcome to the dad and daughter connection, the podcast for dads who want to build stronger bonds and raise confident independent daughters.

Dr. Christopher Lewis [00:00:12]:
Hey, dads. Welcome to dad connection in five, your quick practical guide to building a stronger bond with your daughter, one intentional action at a time. I’m doctor Christopher Lewis, and today we’re talking about something every dad wants his daughter to do. We want her to believe in herself. Confidence isn’t something we’re born with. It’s built over time through encouragement, experiences, and the way people treat us. And as a dad, you play a huge role in shaping how your daughter sees herself. So today, I’ll give you simple practical ways to help her develop self belief, resilience, and confidence so she grows up knowing her worth.

Dr. Christopher Lewis [00:00:53]:
So why is this important? Well, your daughter looks to you for validation and reassurance. Whether she’s five, 15, or 25, when you consistently show her that she’s capable, valued, and strong, she starts to believe in herself. She’ll take more chances. She won’t be afraid to fail. She’ll trust her own instincts instead of looking for approval from others. And that? That’s priceless. So I’m gonna give you five ways that you can help your daughter believe in herself. First, praise her effort, not just the outcome.

Dr. Christopher Lewis [00:01:29]:
It’s easy to say, you’re so smart or, You’re so amazing at soccer. But real confidence comes from knowing she can work through challenges even when things don’t come easily. Instead, say, I love how hard you worked on that, or, I saw how you kept trying even when it was tough. That’s what makes you strong. Or, you didn’t give up and that’s what really matters. Teaching her that effort matters more than perfection builds long term confidence. Second, encourage her to take risks because confidence grows outside of the comfort zone. Let her try a new hobby even if she’s nervous.

Dr. Christopher Lewis [00:02:11]:
Speak up in class or at a family gathering. Make decisions without second guessing herself. When she hesitates, remind her being brave doesn’t mean not being scared. It means doing it anyway. Third, help her reframe failures because every mistake is a lesson. Instead of letting failure shake her confidence, teach her how to learn and grow from them. If she messes up on a test, loses a game, or makes a mistake, say, What’s one thing that you can do differently next time? Every time you fail, you’re learning something new. Or even the best people in the world failed before they succeeded.

Dr. Christopher Lewis [00:02:51]:
This helps her see failure as a stepping stone, not just a dead end. Fourth, show her confidence in action. Your daughter learns a lot from watching you. If she sees you handling challenges without panicking, or speaking up with confidence, or trying new things without fear of failure, she’s going to then start to mirror that, and she’ll believe in herself. You don’t have to be perfect, just show her how to keep moving forward even when things don’t go as planned. And fifth, tell her that you believe in her. Often often the most powerful things that you can do is say it out loud. I believe in you.

Dr. Christopher Lewis [00:03:33]:
I know you can handle this. You are strong, capable, and enough, just as you are. Hearing those words from a dad can shape how she sees herself for years to come. So some quick takeaways, you can start this today. Here’s your challenge. Before the end of the day, tell your daughter one thing that makes her strong, capable, or brave. Praise her effort, not just the result. Encourage her to take risks and step outside of her comfort zone.

Dr. Christopher Lewis [00:04:01]:
Help her reframe failures as learning moments. Model confidence so she sees it in action, and tell her that you believe in her because your words matter. When she hears these things over and over again, she won’t just believe in herself. She’ll carry that belief with her for a lifetime. Okay. So that’s it for today’s dad connection in five. If this resonated with you, share it with another dad who wants to raise a confident, self assured daughter. Until next time, keep showing up, keep believing in her, and keep being the dad that she needs.

Dr. Christopher Lewis [00:04:40]:
That’s a wrap for this episode of the dad and daughter connection. Thanks for joining us on this journey to build stronger bonds and raise confident, independent daughters. Remember, being an engaged dad isn’t about being perfect. It’s about being present. If you enjoyed this episode, be sure to subscribe and share it with a fellow dad. And don’t forget, you can find all our episodes at dadanddaughterconnection.com. Until next time, keep showing up, keep connecting, and keep being the dad she needs.

Musical Outro Performer [00:05:11]:
We’re all in the same boat, and it’s full of tiny screaming passengers. We spend the time, We give the lessons. We make the meals. We buy them presents and bring your A game Because those kids are growing fast. The time goes by just like a dynamite blast. Calling astronauts and firemen, carpenters and muscle men, get out and beat the world to them. Be the best dad you can be.

Musical Outro Performer [00:06:04]:
Be the best dad you can be.

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Top Study Tips for Busy Dads

June 21, 2017 by dadofdivas

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Study Tips for Busy Dads

Compared to just a few decades ago, our lives today have changed dramatically. While one of the key factors to bring about these changes has been technology and the internet, in recent times, social norms have also drastically shifted. Today, more and more dads are taking time off from work, or switching to working from home so that they can play a more active role in bringing up their children. While many stay-at-home dads certainly have their hands full when it comes to family duties, many are using this precious time spent at home to study so that they can improve their career prospects and better provide for their family. I’ve listed some top study tips for busy stay at home dads.

 

Tip #1. Find a Flexible Program

As a stay at home dad who is studying for a college degree or other qualification, your first priority will always be looking after your little ones. Because of this, it’s important that dads first and foremost find a program and school that allows them a lot of flexibility. It’s highly unlikely that attending a traditional campus, with set timetables for lectures, seminars, and workshops is going to suit your lifestyle. Instead, online degree programs, such as this online behavioral analysis program, which can be studied for at home and on your own terms, are an ideal option.

Study Tips for Busy Dads

Tip #2. Stick to a Schedule

You’re probably already more than aware of the need to have a routine as a parent. Little ones do tend to live in the ‘here and now’, but because of this, it’s important for them to know what to expect throughout the day or week. As a parent who is also studying, it’s also vital for you to have a routine to stick to. Without a study schedule that fits around your family commitments, it will be more difficult for you to find the time to get things done, which could result in you falling behind with work and struggling.

Study Tips for Busy Dads

Tip #3. Get Support

The old saying of ‘it takes a village’ is certainly true when it comes to being a stay at home dad and studying at the same time. Even if you have taken advantage of the extra flexibility by studying for an online BA degree, it’s important to remember that at times, you are likely to need the support of others to help get you through. If you have a partner, then set out a plan with them for childcare and home duties, to give you some quiet time during the evenings, for example, that you can use to catch up with your studies. Additionally, if you have family members or friends who have offered to babysit, then take them up on this offer! Not only will it allow you some free time to focus on achieving your academic goals, spending some time with good friends or relatives can be great for your children’s development.

Are these tips helpful? We’d love to hear from you in the comments.

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WWE Supports Spirit Day! @WWE #SpiritDay

October 7, 2014 by dadofdivas

 

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WWE® and The Creative Coalition will support GLAAD’s Spirit Day by “going purple” through their joint Be a STAR (Show Tolerance And Respect) anti-bullying initiative. Support kicked off this morning at a Be a STAR anti-bullying rally in New York and will continue through Spirit Day next Thursday, October 16 with promotion on TheCreativeCoalition.org, WWE.com, WWECommunity.com and on WWE and Be a STAR social media assets, reaching more than 400 million people globally.

 

As part of The Creative Coalition and WWE’s support for GLAAD, a Be a STAR Alliance Member, the Be a STAR logo wasturned purple, a first in the program’s history, and students at the rally were given co-branded t-shirts that encouraged them to “Go Purple” on Spirit Day, show their support for LGBT youth and speak out against bullying. WWE has supported GLAAD’s Spirit Day since 2011.

 

“No one should be bullied because of who they are,” said GLAAD President & CEO Sarah Kate Ellis. “GLAAD is proud to stand with WWE in the fight against bullying and in a visible display of support for LGBT youth.”

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“Spirit Day is an important time for everyone to stand up against bullying and discrimination,” said Stephanie McMahon, WWE Chief Brand Officer. “WWE is proud to support the LGBT community and GLAAD by spreading the message of respect and inclusion through our global platforms.”

 

“The Creative Coalition is proud that GLAAD is a member of our Be a STAR Alliance and even more proud to support Spirit Day as an initiative that embodies the tenets of the Be a STAR program,” said CEO of The Creative Coalition Robin Bronk. “We commend GLAAD for Spirit Day and believe it enhances our commitment to utilizing the resources of the arts and entertainment community to increase acceptance of lesbian, gay, bisexual and transgender youth.”

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Additionally, WWE and Be a STAR will stand up against bullying and support GLAAD’s Spirit Day by promoting the initiative through homepage takeovers on WWE.com and WWECommunity.com as well as social media support from WWE Superstars and Divas.

 

Spirit Day was started in 2010 as a response to the young people who had taken their own lives. Millions wear purple on Spirit Day as a sign of support for lesbian, gay, bisexual and transgender (LGBT) youth and to speak out against bullying. With GLAAD’s help, Spirit Day has since garnered widespread support from entertainment organizations, sports leagues, celebrities, TV news and entertainment programs, corporations, schools, local communities, and even national landmarks.

 

According to GLSEN’s 2011 National School Climate Survey, 63.5% of LGBT students reported feeling unsafe at school because of their sexual orientation and 43.9% because of their gender expression. GLSEN also reported that 81.9% of LGBT students report being verbally harassed because of their sexual orientation and 63.9% because of their gender expression.

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Finding the Right Ankle Brace For My Daughter #dadchat

March 6, 2014 by dadofdivas

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Over the Christmas holiday my oldest daughter was sledding, went over a jump and came down hard on her ankle. While she was crying, we did not know whether she was actually injured or not. After about 2 hours at urgent care the diagnosis came in as being a sprained ankle. This was not a fun diagnosis, as my daughter had just gotten a snowboard for Christmas and we knew that indoor soccer season was coming as well.

In going to her Pediatrician, we found that she was going to have to stay off the ankle on crutches for a while, but then would need an ankle brace that could support her ankle at least throughout indoor and outdoor soccer season (you can probably guess how well that went over).

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Well… we started looking for ankle braces, and came to find how expensive these were! I was simply shocked that we were looking at braces that were $60-$70 for braces that would fit her. That was when we went to our local Dick’s Sporting Center and found out about Shock Doctor ankle braces. I reached out to them and they were gracious enough to send me a few ankle braces to try.

In looking at the braces that were sent to me as well as the ones that were on their website, I was impressed with how they had different braces that provided different levels of ankle support. My daughter ended up liking the level 2 support that was provided and she found that she could move easily with it while running on the soccer field (which was her biggest concern).

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As a parent, I was happy to have a brace that was well constructed as well as cost effective. I found that the price of these ankle braces were about ½ the price of the braces that I had seen in the past and they actually had ones that fit her as well.

I have been holding off on writing this post over the past month mostly because I wanted to see how well the brace held up during the entire indoor soccer season. We are now almost to the end of the season and the brace that Diva-J has used has worked SO well. My daughters’ ankle has been giving her no pain and she is running hard on it which to me shows me how well it supports the ankle no matter the situation.

All-in-all I was very impressed with the support, quality and price of these Shock Doctor products and we will definitely be using them again in the future as the necessity requires.

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